[TPIN] Re: TPIN Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3

[Dave Lee]

it seems that your definition of good jazz involves melody
recognition...which is certainly a portion of it, but by no means the
whole...one of the most significant aspects of jazz is the ability to
improvise, not just around the melody, but around the chords, creating
something specifically NOT identifiable as a known melody, but a spontaneous
creation that bears a little resemblance as possible to something already
known...of course, nothing is entirely original, as many of the "licks" and
"lines" played over the chords are portions of practiced scales, arpeggios,
patterns, etc., but the way they are assembled ideally is to be spontaneous,
so that each time a solo is played it is new and fresh...with that said,
there are those like chris botti (whom i happen to like a lot) that tend to
play more melody and less real improvised solos for the most part....sounds
like that's your "cup of tea"...but don't confuse that as being the
benchmark for a jazz offering of a standard....listen to miles, and you'll
see what i mean....dave lee

> From: "William Graham" <weg9 at comcast.net>
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:54:02 -0800
> To: "Jeff Helgesen" <jeff.helgesen at gmail.com>, <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [TPIN] Re: TPIN Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Helgesen" <jeff.helgesen at gmail.com>
> To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:31 AM
> Subject: [TPIN] Re: TPIN Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3
> 
> 
>> "William Graham" weg9 at comcast.net said:
>>> I told her once that if they cut out the
>>> beginning 16 bars and the last 16 bars, you wouldn't be able to tell the
>>> difference in songs from the 10 minutes or so they spent playing those
>> jazz
>>> runs in the middle......I think she dumped me shortly after that....."
>> 
>> She seems astute!
>> 
>> In the clip in question, the tune that Chet is blowing over is definitely
>> "My Funny Valentine".  This would be clear to anyone who listened to the
>> entire tune closely enough to keep the structure in their head.  The chord
>> progression is clearly demarcated.
> 
> I agree, after listening to the whole clip. But I probably wouldn't be able
> to identify the tune just from the middle section. (between the 3 and the 8
> minute marks) So my point to the lady (long ago) was well taken. The kind of
> far out jazz she liked was even harder to differentiate.....I doubt if
> anyone could identify those tunes, but, since I don't have sound clips,
> we'll never know.
> 
> 
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