[TPIN] RE: Freddy Hubbard

Glenn Bengry soundpretty at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 12 09:20:39 CDT 2006 

James,


    None of us gets through life without getting our butt kicked(often it is 
multiple times, or perhaps all the time)  Trumpet players are especially 
prone to buttkicking.  We are courageous enough and/or stupid enough to try 
to tame the trumpet beast.  Buttkicking goes with the territory.  A lot of 
very gifted players stop playing after the first buttkicking.  The rest of 
us are either too passionate to quit or too stubborn to quit or too stupid 
to quit or perhaps all three.  But we do have inspiration from some of the 
greatest players to ever play the trumpet when we find out the monster 
obstacles they had to overcome to keep playing.  Work hard at it today.  
Wake up tommorow and start all over again.  That's all any of us have to 
work with.  I'm going to warm up right now so I can go to a lesson/session 
and get humbled some more.


Glenn


>From: "Perales, James" <jperales at amilink.com>
>To: "Glenn Bengry" <soundpretty at hotmail.com>
>CC: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
>Subject: RE: [TPIN] RE: Freddy Hubbard
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:47:50 -0400
>
>Glen,
>Thanks for that information.
>Along with the link sent by William it's very interesting material.
>I think it's tragic when a trumpet player, or any musician suddenly finds 
>himself or herself unable to play. They need the support, comfort, prayers 
>of family and friends to help them overcome what for me would be a huge 
>adversity in their life.
>Sincerely,
>James P.
>
> > ----------
> > From: 	Glenn Bengry
> > Sent: 	Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:00 AM
> > To: 	weg9 at comcast.net; Perales, James; tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
> > Cc: 	jrpjazz at yahoo.com
> > Subject: 	Re: [TPIN] RE: Freddy Hubbard
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >     I read the article on Freddie where he acknowledges that he was 
>partying
> > too hard. I don't like to continue "rumors", BUT, the word on the street 
>was
> > that Freddie was doing that quite a bit and got way out of shape and 
>tried
> > to keep playing like he was always used to playing.  I think we've all
> > gotten out of shape and thought we could do what we could do when we 
>were in
> > shape.  I always thought that Freddie had great chops and a great 
>embouchure
> > because he had arguably the greatest, most free, gorgeous sound and 
>could
> > get all around the horn with such ease it was hardly imaginable that a 
>guy
> > could do that.
> >
> >      Other great players that had major lip injuries:  Armando
> > Ghitalla(Boston Symphony) had a growth on his top lip.  Correct me if 
>I'm
> > wrong those of you who knew him.  He had Tottle make him some huge
> > mouthpieces and he played through it.  I don't know how he healed it.
> >
> > Tom Stevens(Los Angeles Philharmonic)  had a cyst(career threatening) on 
>his
> > upper lip who had a brilliant doctor who injected him exactly in the 
>precise
> > spot and saved his career.  I was told that story by a source very close 
>to
> > the situation so I think it is very close to accurate.
> >
> > Raphael Mendez  (the legend of the trumpet) had has face bashed in when
> > someone opened the door of the pit in the Fox theater in Detroit. He 
>thought
> > he might not ever be able to play the trumpet again.  He tried 
>everything
> > until his father finally coached him back in Mexico  of how to slowly 
>come
> > back and retrain all the muscles and tissue.  The story is in a 
>biography or
> > is it an autobiography which is available. This period of healing and
> > retraining took a couple of years after which he played better than 
>ever.
> > He could play equally well anywhere on his lips.  In the middle, just 
>off
> > center, way to the left, or way to the right.  He trained his face that
> > much.  It is unbelievable to hear him demonstrate that (on recordings)
> >
> > Bud Herseth  (Chicago Symphony)  was in a car accident  which busted up 
>his
> > face.  I believe he was out a whole season or most of one.  He played an 
>old
> > Bach 7c before the accident and went bigger afterward.  I think his
> > workhorse mouthpiece was some kind of Bach 1B with a 22 throat.
> >
> > A lot of players have to go through this in their careers.  I hope 
>Freddie
> > makes it back.  I love the way he used to sound.
> >
> >      In high school I pressed so hard I had a rock in my top lip that
> > wouldn't go away.  It took me more than a decade to learn how to warm 
>up.  I
> > had a terrific player for a teacher who told me not to warm up.  That 
>messed
> > me up for a long time.
> >
> >      At age 40 I changed my embouchure and had to relearn how to play.  
>The
> > results were worth it but it took me several years to get it going and 
>its
> > still developing.
> >
> >      This is all overkill for your original question but I know that a 
>lot
> > of young guys on the list will feel a little better about how many 
>problems
> > the old guys have had to overcome to keep playing.
> >
> >
> > Glenn
> > >From: "William Graham" <weg9 at comcast.net>
> > >To: "Perales, James" <jperales at amilink.com>, <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> > >CC: jrpjazz at yahoo.com
> > >Subject: Re: [TPIN] RE: Freddy Hubbard
> > >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:48:50 -0700>
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Perales, James" 
><jperales at amilink.com>
> > >To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> > >Cc: <jrpjazz at yahoo.com>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:54 PM
> > >Subject: [TPIN] RE: Freddy Hubbard
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hello to all TPINers,
> > >>
> > >>I'm at work, working on my computer, listening to Freddy Hubbard's 
>"Ready
> > >>for Freddy" cd. Fred did some awesome work on this here.
> > >>
> > >>>From what I've read, Fred was a great player and a real HOT star 
>'till he
> > >>>had major embochure problems that sidelined his music career.
> > >>
> > >>The book "Trumpet Kings" makes mention of it.
> > >>
> > >>I'm not too informed regarding this, but would like to know if there 
>was
> > >>something in particullar that Fred did,... bad embochure habits, 
>etc... or
> > >>some lip trauma,....
> > >>perhaps a combination of things...that caused him this misfortune?
> > >>
> > >>Any illuminated trumpet sage here can reply, or anyone in the know.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Sincerely,
> > >>James P.
> > >
> > >I found this through Google...
> > >    http://www.shout.net/~jmh/articles/freddie01.html
> > >
> > >
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