[TPIN] Disappointment - a moral dilemma

Glenn Bengry soundpretty at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 25 16:58:44 CDT 2006


Picc equipment is a whole topic by itself.  I once played Magnificat on a 
humongous mouthpiece, a humogulous backbore and a hemmemongous leadpipe.  I 
wouldn't try that now for anything.  I moved a lot of air which I used to 
do.

Now I play an old Bach 8c when I want a big fat, more trumpetlike sound.  I 
play a bach 10 3/4CW most of the time and I have a chance to get the higher 
notes without having to work so hard.  But I think that playing the piccolo 
requires learning to play in a much different way than with a bigger horn.  
I might dig up some picc duet stuff and play with my buddy a few different 
times, try some different mtpcs.  Learning to match the resistance of the 
horn and the mouthpiece is a whole art form One could tell by watching and 
listening what the deal is with the buddy 2nd player's set up and whole 
approach.  Take it from there.  A buddy always wants to help a buddy and 
usually a tpt player wants to sound better and play easier.

     Buddy up buddy through it and buddy on.   Buddies are pretty important 
in life.  Most of us don't have enough good ones.  So buddy your way through 
it and everybuddy will be the bedder for it.

    We'll all be anxious to hear what transpires.  Friendship and trumpet 
playing is pretty much what this list is about. I hope some good things come 
out of a bad musical experience.  Wouldn't that be a cool thing.


Glenn


>From: "James Klages" <james.klages at gmail.com>. To: mckechnie at enterprise.net
>CC: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
>Subject: Re: [TPIN] Disappointment - a moral dilemma
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:34:05 -0500
>
>Hello Ian,'we have all been there also. (Both sides of it it - if one has
>enough experience.)  An inappropriate mouthpiece on the pic makes it play
>flat or sharp - depending on the player. Ten yeas ago I was asked to do the
>Brandburg in Israel (on a trip that was cancelled because of some
>peace-loving homicide bombers). At the time - it was found that the best 
>pic
>mouthpiece for e was a Bach 5c.
>
>I imagine your second player feels bad enough about this without need his
>ears rubbed in it by public ridicule.
>Jim
>
>
>
>On 6/25/06, Ian McKechnie <mckechnie at enterprise.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi all
>>
>>In April, I did a performance of the Bach B minor and yesterday I
>>picked up a copy of the CD of the performance.  Bits of it are quite
>>good, which, has rather cheered me up, actually.
>>
>>Unfortunately, many bits of it have, for me, been entirely spoiled by
>>absolutely appalling playing by the second trumpet.  OK, it's really
>>his problem, but there is one thing which has made me
>>reeeeaaaaalllly cross.  In the "Cum Sancto Spiritu" there is my
>>absolutely favourite passage to play, ever, which starts at around bar
>>25-ish, and as those of you who know the work will remember, at the
>>end the first trumpet (around bar 40-is) having played up in the very
>>top register, drops down an octave and the second trumpet finishes
>>the phrase at the very top.
>>
>>With all due modesty, I thought I played the phrase as well as I am
>>ever likely to.  Unfortunately, just as I was patting myself on the back
>>we got to the end of the phrase, and trumpet 2 clammed the end so
>>badly it was embarrassing.  Worse than that, because of the quality
>>of the recording, anyone who doesn't know the piece might think that
>>the clammed notes at the top were me!!!!!!!
>>
>>So, how do I tell (or indeed do I tell) the second trumpet who is a
>>very good friend and a really nice guy who takes his trumpet playing
>>very seriously, that
>>
>>1: He has less talent on piccolo trumpet than I have on the
>>patagonian nose flute
>>
>>2: He should be not playing the picc using a large mouthpiece (Bach
>>1 1/2 C size), because almost no-one in their right mind would do
>>that unless they had absolutely super technique (even Andre goes
>>for a smaller mouthpiece on picc) which he, definitely, does not
>>possess.
>>
>>3: There is no way on God's earth that I am going to let him play
>>second trumpet on Bach ever again, unless he gets miraculously
>>better.
>>
>>and
>>
>>4: He has taken one of my best performances and totally screwed it
>>over.
>>
>>I was thinking of asking the Society to issue a note with all the CDs
>>saying "The split notes and out of tune trumpet playing on this CD is
>>emphatically not the responsibility of Ian, who wishes to dissociate
>>himself from it entirely" but I doubt they would go long with it.
>>
>>If I say nothing, and merely  try to get someone else to play second
>>in future, he will undoubtedly notice(!) and ask why.  So what would
>>you do in this position?  I don't want to hurt his feelings, really, but
>>his dire performance has certainly hurt mine!!!!!
>>
>>(I will try to put an MP3 of some of the more offensive bits on my
>>website in a couple of days - because you might as well all get a
>>good laugh out of some magnificent clams !!)
>>
>>Ian
>>
>>Ian McKechnie
>>mckechnie at enterprise.net
>>
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>Professor of Trumpet
>School of Music
>University of Central Oklahoma
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