[TPIN] Good or bad,..here it is

[Jon Trimble]

Wow Jeff..:)  Thanks so much for the input and info..:)  This is exactly 
what I thought would be cool.  Unless it offends someone, I would rather 
keep things here in the group in hope some lurker may learn.  For the 
others, they can delete the thread.  If this gets out of hand, I'm sure 
it'll be shut down...:)

I love the transcribing idea and have done that before.  I usually spend my 
free time in between sets transcribing chords.  I've been working on my 
chords recognition and I know it comes with practice.  I felt I did a lot 
better when I could "hear" what was coming at me.  In this situation, the 
monitors are off, we're surrounded by foam, and there's plexy between the 
horns and the drums about 4 feet above my head.  I like it this way as I am 
forced to read the chords instead of relying on my ear.

As far as listening, when I am on my com, I almost always have jazzplayer 
radio going.  I carry a little cd book of about 15 cd's and put one guy in 
them.  These I change out each month.

My problem is mainly time. Literal time in my life.  I jam in as much 
trumpet when the fam isn't around plus I just had my first day off in about 
three months.  Taking the horn off my face it leave me to write and listen.

Thanks for the kudos and info again..:)  I look forward to getting more out 
of this.
Jon Trimble
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Helgesen" <jeff.helgesen at gmail.com>
To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
Cc: "Jon Trimble" <jontrimble at cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TPIN] Good or bad,..here it is


> Jon (and the list):
>
> (First of all, it takes a dedicated student of the instrument to bare
> one's "jazz soul" to a list of peers for criticism, so kudos to Jon
> and I hope he gets some constructive comments from others.)
>
> I took a few minutes and listened to each of the cuts.
>
> I think you clearly display the ability to construct solos over these
> changes that don't violate any of the harmonic "rules", with good time
> and a sense of the form and surrounding solos.
>
> I'd be hard pressed to identify things "not to do" in the solos you
> provided -- there are good note choices, and "not as good" note
> choices, and your ear can probably tell you when you've hit one versus
> the other.  One thing I've suggested in the past to some folks is that
> they write out (transcribe) what they did on a solo and go back and
> see if they can edit it to make it better.
>
> I could make some specific suggestions about things you could practice
> to maybe expand your palette of melodic ideas, but I hesitate to do
> that without knowing what kinds of things you've been doing in
> practice sessions to get where you are now.
>
> I'm a big proponent of LOTS of listening and LOTS of dedicating solos
> to memory, and when possible, LOTS of transcribing and analysis.  I
> think that the more melodic information you have in your head to draw
> from, the easier it is to construct solos that are not only
> stylistically appropriate (which I'm sure is a priority given the
> nature of your work) but also interesting for you to play.
>
> I'd be happy to offer more specific comments via private email.
>
> Thanks for putting this out there, I hope your offering generates some
> interesting reponses for you and the list!
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
> -- 
> Jeff Helgesen
> Buy our CD at http://cdbaby.com/cd/jazzmayhem
>
>> "Jon Trimble" <jontrimble at cox.net> said (in part)...
>>
>> Hey guys, finally got those recordings from a month ago.  I set up a 
>> myspace
>> account to get them out there. http://myspace.com/jontrimble
>> [...]
>>
>> Here's my goal, I am offering myself up as a way to point out what would 
>> be
>> good to do AS WELL as what is not good to do.  Thought you all might like 
>> to
>> discuss whatever about it.  I have no ego on this.  [...]
>
>
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