[TPIN] American in Paris solo question (Carl McCurdy)
Solum, Krystal R
SolumKR26 at uww.edu
Fri Aug 3 10:06:32 CDT 2007
Carl-
Felt hats make all the difference. I've gotten mine from an army surplus stores. You can cut off the rim so you just have the cup, and then cut a couple of slits in it so you can "attach" it to your bell without too much fear of it falling off. I've also seen a Crown Royale bag used tied to the end as well...;)
Hope this helps. Good luck!
Krystal Solum
www.newtradition.moonfruit.com
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1. Re: air flight (Dave Lee)
2. Re: air flight (Flip Oakes)
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4. Re: Ear protection (Del Bert)
5. Re: air flight (Travis Wilson)
6. Re: Difficult Band Member - lead playing and
responsibilities (Jeff Helgesen)
7. Wedding Inquiry (RRW1951 at aol.com)
8. Re: Last Chords (Rich Szabo)
9. American in Paris solo question (Carl McCurdy)
10. RE: air flight (John DeCarli)
11. Re: American in Paris solo question (jfprindle at comcast.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:58:07 -0500
From: Dave Lee <davesjazz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] air flight
To: <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>, tpin <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
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If the horn is to be carried on, then the oil is ok is the container is not
over 3 oz....knives are off limits..just went through this a week ago...dave
lee
> From: <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>
> Reply-To: <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:39:30 -0500
> To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> Subject: [TPIN] air flight
>
> OK I know this has been here before but I never listened to it. Haven't
> flown since before 9/11 and figured I'd deal with it when time didn't allow
> me to drive. I'm checking one bag and figured my trumpet will go as carry
> on (walt johnson bag). Lemme know if my valve oil is illegal or something
> like that. I assume the pocket knife that's been in my pocket the last 30
> years will have to stay at home.
>
> Thanks....:)
>
> Jon Trimble
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:17:08 -0700
From: Flip Oakes <flip at flipoakes.com>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] air flight
To: <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>, "tpin at tpin.okcu.edu"
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Hi Jon,
I have been flying a lot lately, just got back from Davenport Iowa a few
days ago.
You should take your valve oil out of your case and place your valve oil in
a sandwich bag ( baggie ) and when you go through the TSA inspection, just
place it in the bin with your other items. So far it's always gone through
just fine with me.
Have a safe trip....
Flip Oakes
Flip Oakes
³Wild Thing Trumpets²
COME AND HEAR THE DIFFERENCE
http://www.flipoakes.com
³To read what Wild Thing Owners say about their horns, click on this²
http://www.flipoakes.com/testimonials.htm
Flip Oakes
2559 Mottino Dr.
Oceanside, Ca. 92056-3421
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760-643-1511 Fax
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on 8/2/07 11:39 PM, jontrimble at suddenlink.net at jontrimble at suddenlink.net
wrote:
> OK I know this has been here before but I never listened to it. Haven't
> flown since before 9/11 and figured I'd deal with it when time didn't allow
> me to drive. I'm checking one bag and figured my trumpet will go as carry
> on (walt johnson bag). Lemme know if my valve oil is illegal or something
> like that. I assume the pocket knife that's been in my pocket the last 30
> years will have to stay at home.
>
> Thanks....:)
>
> Jon Trimble
> jontrimble at suddenlink.net
> http://myspace.com/jontrimble
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:09:36 -0400
From: "Del Bert" <shopharim at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] air flight
To: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
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In fact, all liquids, gels and creams need to be our of the case and placed
in the baggies. I keep the Binak oil and cream in a baggie in my case for
this reason.
On 8/3/07, Flip Oakes <flip at flipoakes.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> I have been flying a lot lately, just got back from Davenport Iowa a few
> days ago.
>
> You should take your valve oil out of your case and place your valve oil
> in
> a sandwich bag ( baggie ) and when you go through the TSA inspection, just
> place it in the bin with your other items. So far it's always gone through
> just fine with me.
>
> Have a safe trip....
>
> Flip Oakes
>
> Flip Oakes
> ³Wild Thing Trumpets²
> COME AND HEAR THE DIFFERENCE
> http://www.flipoakes.com
>
> ³To read what Wild Thing Owners say about their horns, click on this²
> http://www.flipoakes.com/testimonials.htm
>
> Flip Oakes
> 2559 Mottino Dr.
> Oceanside, Ca. 92056-3421
> 760-643-1501
> 760-643-1511 Fax
>
> To Hear the Flip Oakes Wild Thing Trumpet go to
> http://www.flipoakes.com/multimedia.htm
>
>
>
>
> on 8/2/07 11:39 PM, jontrimble at suddenlink.net at jontrimble at suddenlink.net
> wrote:
>
> > OK I know this has been here before but I never listened to it. Haven't
> > flown since before 9/11 and figured I'd deal with it when time didn't
> allow
> > me to drive. I'm checking one bag and figured my trumpet will go as
> carry
> > on (walt johnson bag). Lemme know if my valve oil is illegal or
> something
> > like that. I assume the pocket knife that's been in my pocket the last
> 30
> > years will have to stay at home.
> >
> > Thanks....:)
> >
> > Jon Trimble
> > jontrimble at suddenlink.net
> > http://myspace.com/jontrimble
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:41:40 -0400
From: "Del Bert" <shopharim at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] Ear protection
To: "Geoff Sheridan" <trumpet at premonition.co.uk>
Cc: "TPIN \(Message to All List Members\)" <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
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I use the Shure E2G (same as the E2C, but for marketed for video games...and
slightly less expensive) for outside noise cancellation. There are
different ear bud types for differing levels of isolation and comfort. I
use the foam when I need total isolation. I use the black synthetic for
ultimate comfort.
I have recently noticed that I can use them with my Sony Hi-MD recorder
(MZ-NH900, $300 or less) as a monitor. I use the ECM-MS907 microphone
($100 new).
The down-side is, the microphone picks up the whole room VERY well. So you
still have the loud sounds coming through. But, you now have volume control
(and probably some limited EQ function to limit the output).
The upside is, the set-up is very good for CD-quality home recordings so the
solution for your ears may facilitate any recording needs you may have.
HTH
On 7/27/07, Geoff Sheridan <trumpet at premonition.co.uk> wrote:
>
> MA
>
> You could experiment with using a clip-on mic, yamaha silent brass unit
> (not the
> mute) with in-ear isolating headphones like the Sennheiser CX300 or Shure
> E2C.
>
> Different mic placement could help get different mixes of ambient and
> trumpet
> sounds, as could swapping one earphone for an earplug.
>
> You can probably beg/borrow some of this stuff for testing before you
> invest the
> cash. It's got to be worth trying out?
>
>
> Geoff
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:34:50 -0500
From: Travis Wilson <travisw at pdq.net>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] air flight
To: jontrimble at suddenlink.net
Cc: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
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Jon
feel free to take the pocket knife in your checked baggage. You
obviously cannot take it on the plane with you, but you can sure have it
in your checked baggage. I collect knives and have many many times taken
over a hundred knives on a trip, but always in the checked luggage.
Travis
Jontrimble at suddenlink.net wrote:
> OK I know this has been here before but I never listened to it.
> Haven't flown since before 9/11 and figured I'd deal with it when time
> didn't allow me to drive. I'm checking one bag and figured my trumpet
> will go as carry on (walt johnson bag). Lemme know if my valve oil is
> illegal or something like that. I assume the pocket knife that's been
> in my pocket the last 30 years will have to stay at home.
>
> Thanks....:)
>
> Jon Trimble
> jontrimble at suddenlink.net
> http://myspace.com/jontrimble
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:59:00 -0500
From: "Jeff Helgesen" <jeff.helgesen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] Difficult Band Member - lead playing and
responsibilities
To: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
Cc: Vaxtrpts at aol.com, Rich Willey <boptism at charter.net>
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Just piling on late on this topic.
On the subject of time -- bass establishes pulse, the ride cymbal
establishes the eighth note pattern. When I'm playing lead (and,
frankly, when I'm playing in a section), I lock in on the ride cymbal.
(Unless the rhythm section has poor time conception, in which all bets
are off...)
On the subject of liberties with voicings -- nicht, nein, verboten
almost always. It's not just about how high the lead player is able
to play. Increasing the top interval of a voicing -- from, say, a
minor third to, say, a sixth -- thins out the top part of the chord.
I suppose you could revoice the chord in the whole section, but that
seems like an awful lot of work just to show off.
(Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that every arranger's work is
sacrosanct. There are alot of bad arrangers out there, and they're
usually worse copyists. But decisions about changing arrangements
should always be run through the bandleader. Amen.)
I also have pet peeves about lead players adding shakes and other
affects when they're not called for nor stylistically correct. As
Mike Vax pointed out in an earlier posting, consistency is the
watchword. If you want to get creative, play the jazz chair. :-)
--
Jeff Helgesen
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:03:10 EDT
From: RRW1951 at aol.com
Subject: [TPIN] Wedding Inquiry
To: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu, tpin-request at tpin.okcu.edu
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Hi everybody -
I just got an inquiry for a wedding ceremony, which included
this query: "DO YOU TRAVEL TO DESTINATION AREAS AND PLAY?"
Well, chances they are not going to fly me to South Dakota
for this gig:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
EventType: WEDDING CEREMONY
EventDate: 12 JANUARY 2008
EventTime: 3:00
EventLocation: RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So, does anyone on this list live in the Rapid City area?
Contact me offlist and I will pass the contact info to you.
Have a splendid day.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:13:36 -0400
From: Rich Szabo <rich at richszabo.com>
Subject: Re: [TPIN] Last Chords
To: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
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>In a message dated 8/2/2007 10:07:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>baissie at yahoo.com writes:
>
>OK guys. I have to ask. WHY?
>
>I'm assuming the lead player is not just playing some obnoxious sharp 11
>because it's the highest note they can squeal. But if the lead
>player takes the
>4th part up an octave and the 2nd plays the lead note, and the 3rd... etc,
>AND of course it sounds good... why not? The arrangement was written for a
>band or for a level of player. If you're not that band and you're not that
>level... IOW, if the arranger had known you could play a high F#
>then maybe they
>would have written it. So why not play it if it sound good?
>
>...Steve
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>Simple - because the arranger KNEW what he or she wanted on that last chord.
> It is not up to you to second guess that arranger. That
> being said, if the
>LEADER wants the chord changed to something higher and re-voices it, that is
>a different story. It is HIS band and he bought the chart.
>Mike Vax
================================================================
I have to agree with Vax on this. Here is an actual it happened to me
story which changed my perspective on this....
Buddy Childers and I were splitting the lead book on the Billy May
band. On one particular chart I was playing lead on I took the last
note up and screamed my butt off. Buddy turned to me and went bat
s**t!!!!! He screamed at me and said "never to do that again! If the
arranger wanted that note he would have written it. Play the ink!!! "
(I'm cleaning up the language, but you get the idea). Buddy went off
on me for the rest of the gig and continued for a few hours after the
gig, and continued his rant on the golf course the next day. Turns
out the sound guy was recording off the board that night. We listened
to it and Buddy was dead on right. I thought it fit perfectly, but
when hearing it with the other voicings in the orchestra, IT WAS ALL
WRONG! Yes the note was in the chord, however, the way Billy voiced
the chord, my screaming high note DIDN'T FIT.
Needless to say, I have never done it again. A great lesson from a
great player.
Just my two cents....
Rich Szabo
rich at richszabo.com
http://www.richszabo.com
================================
Zaja Oil & Accessories
http://www.zajamusic.com
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:35:02 -0400
From: Carl McCurdy <cdmmd at alltel.net>
Subject: [TPIN] American in Paris solo question
To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
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Out of lurking mode for a quick question:
How do you guys handle the American in Paris solo marked "felt hat"?
Thanks (and back to lurking in the digest)
Carl McCurdy, M.D.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:36:36 -0700
From: "John DeCarli" <john.decarli at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [TPIN] air flight
To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
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And you only get to have one, one-quart baggy. I would recommend going to
the TSA site for the latest restrictions.
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Behalf Of Del Bert
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:10 AM
To: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
Subject: Re: [TPIN] air flight
In fact, all liquids, gels and creams need to be our of the case and placed
in the baggies. I keep the Binak oil and cream in a baggie in my case for
this reason.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:43:37 +0000
From: jfprindle at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [TPIN] American in Paris solo question
To: cdmmd at alltel.net, <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
Cc: Carl McCurdy <cdmmd at alltel.net>
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Actually, it's not "felt hat"--it's "felt crown".
Crown Royale bag over the bell (string drawn).
Personally, I prefer the Altman bag. Bigger, easier to put on and take off, puts out a little more sound.
John Prindle
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> Out of lurking mode for a quick question:
>
> How do you guys handle the American in Paris solo marked "felt hat"?
>
> Thanks (and back to lurking in the digest)
>
> Carl McCurdy, M.D.
>
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