[TPIN] - Warning "Lip twisting ismythology!"-TPIN community recommendation

Mon Aug 20 09:23:25 CDT 2007

My purpose was not to flame anyone.  TPIN is a community made up of 
trumpeters ranging from top professionals to beginners.  As a member of this 
community it is our responsibility to quickly and efficiently identify any 
practices which add to the destructive mythology that could hurt our fellow 
players.  The internet is ripe with bastards who create programs solely for 
the purpose of harming communication and computation for others.  Complete 
disregard for the health and safety of others and activity that has no 
logical agenda other than to : gather attention or some how profit from 
disillussioning others needs to be policed by TPIN members.  Given the 
number of exceptional teachers and musicians on TPIN I submit that any 
posting here could be taken as an endorsement.  It's not my place to censor 
anyone.  I would suggest that any posting which could be construed to 
endorse a potentially harmful activity should be labled by the poster as 
MYTH or JOKE or UNPROVEN.
As a guy who suffered through his share of incorrect diaphram dogma and 
unusable mouthpieces I want to defend TPIN's reputation through vigilence.

Steve Roiland

>From: "badnote" <badnote at cox.net>
>To: "Steve Roiland" 
><sjrtrumpet1 at hotmail.com>,<reddogremodelers at kc.rr.com>,<Vaxtrpts at aol.com>,<soundpretty at hotmail.com>,<tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [TPIN] salsa tpt writing and playing - Warning "Lip twisting 
>ismythology!"
>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:07:49 -0400
>
>All,
>
>I know this really great trumpet player who not only twists his mpc on his 
>chops (like screws it into his face) he also grinds his rim on the concrete 
>to get more grip. It seemed to work for him and he is a pro player that if 
>you go to youtube and check out high note videos then you have seen this 
>guy play. I would tell you his name but that might not be fair to him.  Not 
>that I advocate this type of playing but he is a friend of mine and it 
>works for him so I know that they are out there so it is no joke.
>
>John Castleman
>
>BTW he has a triple c too.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Roiland" 
><sjrtrumpet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: <reddogremodelers at kc.rr.com>; <Vaxtrpts at aol.com>; 
><soundpretty at hotmail.com>; <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
>Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [TPIN] salsa tpt writing and playing - Warning "Lip twisting 
>ismythology!"
>
>
>I hope and pray no one falls for this swisting the upper lip crap.  If this
>is a joke, its a joke submitted to the worst possible forum.  Let's search
>for the truth and avoid all of this mythology.  My best note is triple C.  
>I
>was trained by Leon who knew something about range.
>
>Steve Roiland
>
>
>>From: "Byron Jones" <reddogremodelers at kc.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: Byron Jones <reddogremodelers at kc.rr.com>
>>To: <Vaxtrpts at aol.com>, <soundpretty at hotmail.com>, <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [TPIN] salsa tpt writing and playing
>>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:58:45 -0500
>>
>>I got to talk to Jesus Alemaney (lead trumpet and band leader) for a 
>>minute when we opened for them in Lawrence, Kansas a few years ago. He has 
>>an incredible V on his upper lip. I think it protrudes down a good 3/4". 
>>Got him to sign my CD...I think they have a bunch of CDs and all that I 
>>have heard are amazing. By the way, Jesus's uncle plays lead in the 
>>section.. older guy who usually wears a hat.
>>Jesus said the way they like to practice to build chops is to actually 
>>twist that upper lip. I think we talked about this technique a couple of 
>>years ago.... He keeps twisting it when he isn't playing, to build up the 
>>lip. He can blow at the same level for hours at a time......A week after 
>>we played with them, they were on A Prairie Home Companion, live.... They 
>>must have gotten the whole world in tour that year!
>>Byron
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Vaxtrpts at aol.com
>>   To: reddogremodelers at kc.rr.com ; soundpretty at hotmail.com ; 
>>tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 7:44 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [TPIN] salsa tpt writing and playing
>>
>>
>>   In a message dated 8/19/2007 2:07:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
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