[TPIN] Mouthpiece selection

[Orion Development Corp - D. Arndt]

I've always like the "shoulder" on the 7E - but I never thought of this as 
being a narrow rim - "all in the lip of the beholder", I guess.  Years ago, I 
had tried the 7EW on the brandenberg - worked alright, but for most playing I 
always felt the "W" rims to be a little extreme in the cushion department.

To each their own rim...

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:47:29 -0500, Glenn Bengry wrote
> Brian and Dave and mates,
> 
>     The 7E is a fairly narrow rim too.  I can play a 7EW well but 
> not the 7E.  Part of the reason I just mentioned in my previous post 
> about standard(ish rims) is that they don't slope off very much at 
> all on the outer edge(shoulder) of the mpc.  since the majority of 
> players are downstream to some degree(the have an overbite), they 
> will need to pivot slightly(or more) as they play higher.  The EW 
> rims allow much more support in general and especially as one pivots 
> to play higher.
> 
>     This support/pivot/angle issue may be the single biggest 
> obstacle for many players to developing a strong and solid,
>  predictable, consistent upper register.  The wedge deals with that 
> even more than the EW rims on a bach mouthpiece.  The W rims might 
> help a lot of guys with their playing on a Bach mpc.  One of the 
> complaints is that the Bach rims are often thin and sharp.   Anybody 
> else have experience with the W rims.  Anyone play a 3EW? Do they 
> exist? do they play good? I have a 7EW and a 10 3/4 CW and a New 
> York 7CW,  all very nice rims for me.
> 
>      Btw, my old teacher, Billy Horner used to play a 3C.  He had a 
> screw rim done of his 3C and would put that rim on a D underpart to 
> play lead with.  Some of you have heard this clip but it is Billy 
> playing lead on a live Gladys Knight outdoor venue concert in the 
> late 70's here in Detroit.  They lost the tapes for  a long time but 
> then found them and released these as "The lost album" I believe.  
>  This is Billy playing on one of 3 original prototype Getzen 
> Severinson Eternas with a Bach 3C rim and 3D undperpart.
> 
>      www.detroitmusicians.net/pineknob.mp3
> 
> BTW, Dave, I've heard Brian play on hundreds of small mouthpieces! 
>  Hundreds of big ones too!  You'll be surprised to know that he 
> still sounds like Brian.
> 
> glenn
> 
> x
> 
> x> The 3E , I agree, would be a logical choice except that every 3E 
> that I > have ever seen has a had a very narrow rim with a very 
> round bite. If it > were a 3C rim on an E cup I would highly 
> recommend it for a 3C players first > shallow mouthpiece.> > I used 
> to play wide mouthieces but have seen the light. Only for legit. > 
> No more Schilke 18 with a shallow cup copies for me (DeNicola). I 
> played an > 18A4b for several years but have since learned how to 
> use smaller, and > easier to play, mouthpieces for lead and 
> piccolo.> >