[TPIN] Tenp. Withdrawal to SHED was Re: TPIN Digest, Vol 34, Issue 41

joe campagna liberty_fountain at verizon.net
Tue Dec 18 08:14:32 CST 2007


Best wishes for a happy holiday to all a good a Good...umm... (isn't there 
somebody who already has that one?)

Anyway it has be great informative fun. I have learned much. I willbe back 
when I can at least read the notes I play, as to where they are on the staff 
and lines.

It may be of interest, that pushing air through a trumpet is going to 
deprive the makers of Newport Ciggarettes  twenty four dollars per day. For 
the three months I've been smoking after putting down November 2005, it was 
a considerable blow to my entire self.  It's not the money, it's what it 
does.

It was the second hand smoke that got me started agian. It is enough of a 
drug that it kills you wore than any other. Especially if you love wind 
and/or brass.

I hope that you/your students will never be tempted to do such a stupid 
thing to spoil a god-given gift. That's true no matter what one's musical 
aptitude, even musician or not.. Live is precious. Don't smoke and stay out 
of smoke filled areas.

This withdrawal is horrible.  But I know I will make it. Thanks to TPIN's 
help: It was either trumpet or ciggarettes, while the reeds were to grow 
soft to silence.

Have a merry and wonderous holiday.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cather" <John at Cathermusic.com>
To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>; <liberty_fountain at verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: TPIN Digest, Vol 34, Issue 41


> Oh, some of it was serious. That's what threw me.
>
> OK I'll try again.
>
> #1 You seem to be confusing trumpets and cornets. They are two  different 
> family of instruments even though they play the same range  and finger the 
> same. Cornet mouthpieces are typically and historically  more funnel 
> shaped and larger hole. Trumpet mouthpieces are more  typically shallow 
> and bowl shaped with a smaller hole. There are  exceptions though. A Bach 
> 7c is a trumpet mouthpiece even if it has a  cornet shank on it. Don't 
> bother using one on a cornet - it'll usually  end up sounding like a bad 
> trumpet. You have to go to another  manufacture that knows something of 
> cornets to get a decent mouthpiece  for one. Dennis Wick and Sparks are a 
> couple of them. Your 1800's  mouthpiece on the cornet is probably not a 
> bad choice to start with. A  Schilke E or F cup may not be so bad as well.
>
> #2 A 2/3 upper lip placement is typical for French horn not for  trumpet. 
> 1/2 to 1/3 upper lip is more typical for trumpet. Of course  there are 
> always exceptions.
>
> I would not want to change anything you are doing with the terrific 
> results you seem to be getting. You are indeed lucky to do this well 
> without outside help. Most people don't do nearly as well in the 
> beginning.
>
> As to the below questions,
> #1 & 2 don't exist except for the player him (or her) self.
> #3 Check out other manufactures Like Wick.
> #4 Probably not an efficient course of action. Stick with mpc selection.
>
> You could also have a 4th valve installed with a cigarette adapter 
> attached. Between notes you could hit the 4th valve and take a quick  puff 
> without even moving the horn from your lips! I should patent it.  Maybe 
> somebody will write a concerto for "Trompeta al Cigarro". Could  be.
>
> Cheers,
> John Cather
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:50 AM, joe campagna wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was probably asking for it (bzaks reply post) when I not only  revealed 
>> my
>> "stage name" in the signature of my first post to the list, but did  not
>> realize that my real name came through my program; when I signed up  I 
>> didn't
>> want it to come through. Simply; one just never knows what a person 
>> might
>> encounter on a listserv. Being that this is a musician's list I'll  trust 
>> it.
>>
>> Anyway the question I posed inb my first post is a legitimate one,  for 
>> me
>> and may be of help to other young players such as myself, unless it  is a
>> subject which has been pounded away at in the archive.
>>
>> Revised question as follows:
>>
>> 1: What are some good choices to get a brilliant tone, and even 
>> projection
>> and articulation in a mouthpiece that will handle pedal tones, full 
>> ranges,
>> and upper harmonuics?
>>
>> 2: Are there any known reed players who are successful in achieving  the
>> above goals on trumpet, what may they have used?
>>
>> 3: I can get close to what I want using the french horn mpc on  cornet, 
>> but
>> it lacks brilliance, could there be an answer in a hybrid trumpet  shank 
>> with
>> a modified cup and backbore?
>>
>> 4: Is custom tapered lead pipe a consideration?
>>
>> Thanks for any replies if/in advance.
>>
> 



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