[TPIN] Bach stuff

[Orion Development Corp - D. Arndt]

Amen, brother Rick.

On everything - dead on.  But in particular, the issue of individual sound and the excitment of playing in a generation past - nothing like the sound of Chicago with Reiner, or those recordings of NY Phil, with Vacchiano and the boys blowing the walls down.

I used to be able to identify any orchestra by listening to two or three bars of the brass section on an open blow.  These days, it's so "homoginized" that all the personality has gone out of it.  Man... Wanna make the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end?  Listen to an old recording of Voisin doing the March to the Gallows from Symphonie Fantastic with Boston... 

... Nobody would have the guts to release a recording with that much "grit" these days.

Ok.  I sound like an old fart.  Enough...



On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:01:02 -0500, Rick Rangno wrote
> Hi all,
> 
> I haven't posted in a while, but this thread got me thinking about 
> what one of my teachers once told me:
> 
> "I don't care what you play on as long as it isn't a complete piece 
> of junk. If you're playing well you'll eventually sound like 
> yourself no matter what gear you're using. Now, get your Schlossberg 
> out....."
> 
> I wonder whatever happened to that respect for individual sound? 
> Sure, Bud sounded great on the large bore Bach C with a 1B 
> mouthpiece, but I believe his sound would have been the same 
> (eventually) on an old Huttl trumpet with a no-name 7C piece. Would 
> everyone at the time have flocked to that set-up? Sure, we can look 
> for horns and mouthpieces that will make our job easier, but do we 
> really want to sound like someone else?  Used to be you could tell 
> Herseth from Adelstein from Vacchiano from Ghitalla. Now it all 
> sounds a bit homogeneous to me. That brash individuality doesn't 
> seem to be there anymore.
> 
> The older generation of players always reminded me of fighter 
> pilots....always on the edge, always taking chances, always going 
> for the glory (notes). Now it just seems the orchestras sound 
> cleaner but somehow not quite as exciting. Just a wee bit too 
> careful. Man, those old recordings of the NY Phil with Lenny at the 
> helm still give me goosebumps! Wow!
> 
> I digress.....
> 
> Do you play a Bach or Monette or Yamaha or Getzen or.....? Do you 
> really hear the sound of the horn when you play or do you hear your 
> own sound coming through the horn? Hopefully the latter because 
> trends in horns come and go (as we've seen from a previous post) but 
> your sound is your sound and I think you're stuck with it (not that 
> it can't be improved with lots of good old-fashioned hard work)
> 
> So what am I trying to say?
> 
> Get a good horn that plays well for you, get a mouthpiece that suits 
> your physiology (and that could be a 1B or a 6A4A - who cares?!),
>  get out the music you want to play and hit the practice room!!! 
>  And revel in the great sound YOU are going to make and then share 
> it!
> 
> Take care, and I welcome any discussion of course!
> 
> Rick
> 
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