[TPIN] Bach 229 Bell Versus Bach 239 Bell

[Bill Dishman]

I have a Bach 229/239 screw bell set up.  While I prefer the 229 overall, 
the 239 is good for certain applications I come across.

The 239 has a somewhat more "compact" sound and is a little more on the 
"bright" side of things.  The 229 is indeed "broader" sounding and is a 
little "warmer" in tone but carries very well.  As for the 239 being a 
"chamber" horn.....I am not in agreement with this.  Both can fill the need 
in such pieces as L'histoire and Pulcinella.

I also have a 239 bell on my long model Bach Eb/D and it works extremely 
well for me.  It is considered a "dark" horn compared to some short models 
and Yamahas.  I like it for Hummel, Haydn, Neruda etc.  When I want a 
brighter sound, I use a little shallower mouthpiece for use with organ.

Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Swensen" <kanstulpicc-tpin at yahoo.com>
To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:52 PM
Subject: [TPIN] Bach 229 Bell Versus Bach 239 Bell


>
>  Trevor,
>
>  I've played numerous Bach C trumpets with 229 and 239 bells.
>  The differences are subtle, and in many cases I think the differences
>  in the leadpipe of each copy of a horn can mask the differences in the
>  bell number (229 versus 239).  All else being equal, I think you'll find
>  that the 229 has a bit more "sizzle" to the sound and a more piercing
>  sound when you "light it up."  I've heard the 239 bell described as the
>  "chamber bell."  But, both bells are used by orchestral players, and
>  I find them close in their playing characteristics and sound.
>  Other players will probably disagree with this.
>
>  The 229 bell on a large bore body with 25H or 25A leadpipe seems to be
>  the standard Bach orchestral C trumpet in the U.S., but Bach is less 
> dominant
>  in the orchestral world now that the latest Yamaha C's have been well 
> received.
>
>  Tim
>
>
>
>
> Trevor & Janet Randall <tjr at infogen.net.nz> wrote:
>  I have a Bach C trumpet that is a 239 CL and I would be interested to 
> know
> how it differs to a 229 CL ? Thanks you to anyone who can enlighten me!
> Cheers,
> Trevor Randall.
>
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