[TPIN] Benge Trumpets

[Byron Jones]

A 3X is standard bore, ML .460.
A 3X+_ is Large at .464
A CG is a 6X with the thinner bell and .464 "choke"
A 6X is large bore through and through. .468, and plays great lead if you 
have the air to push it.

My first Benge was purchase in 1970 in Des Moines, Iowa. It was a 3X+. I had 
just come off of transfering from my high school band where I played a 
Getzen Eterna Severinsen, .464 bore. The 3X+ was what the salesman in DM 
said I should have. It was a great little horn. Every one else in the school 
was playing Bach Strads. My teacher was a renegade, on a Shilke, in my 
opinion. The best jazz trumpeter was playing a Benge CG.  But it got stolen 
out of our lockers outside our band room one day. Why my horn? So with 
insurance money, I got a new CG. Played that horn for another 20 years out 
of high school, then found a newer '80's CG that played better. Turns out 
the old horn had red rot. Sold it to a TPIN listmate when I first joined 
this list. He replaced the leadpipe. Wonder if he still has the horn?
My next Benge was a pocket trumpet I picked up a couple of years ago on 
EBay. Original lacquer. Plays just like a 3X. Made in LA. I'll never sell 
it. Has original lacquer in 85% condition
Now, I am looking for that old Severinsen Getzen to buy and the CG,  or 3X+ 
to complete my collection of either a copy of every horn I've ever owned, or 
the original.
Love the Benge. My next horn purchase will either be a Chicago or Burbank 
Benge 6X, or a Getzen Severinsen.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it!
Byron



Bright sound, great valves, and, it proccesses the air. Maybe not 
"efficiently?" , but  some of us use air to compensate for other human 
frailties.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fraser Hutchinson" <fraserh at comcast.net>
To: "'Flip Oakes'" <flip at flipoakes.com>; "'Robert Eye'" 
<ra_eye at sbcglobal.net>; <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>; <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: [TPIN] Benge Trumpets


>I have a LA Benge CG model. I think that is a 3x, correct? I know it has a
> .468 bore.
>
> It is light as all heck.
>
> What is a choke?
>
> Fraser
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tpin-bounces at tpin.okcu.edu [mailto:tpin-bounces at tpin.okcu.edu] On
> Behalf Of Flip Oakes
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:45 PM
> To: Robert Eye; jontrimble at suddenlink.net; tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
> Subject: Re: [TPIN] Benge Trumpets
>
> Jon,
>
> Bob is correct...
>
> The .453 bore was the #1X
>
> The .460 bores were #2X, #3X, #4X, and #5X.
>
> The .464 bores were 2X+, and 3X+
>
> The .468 bores were 6X, the 6XCG had the .464 choke I the bell tailstock,
> and it was a lighter gauge bell then the standard 6x.
>
> The .470 bore was the #7X
>
> Ralph Jones also has this posted at : 
> http://www.whc.net/rjones/Benge1.html
>
> All The Best,
>
> Flip Oakes
>
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> on 2/1/07 3:26 PM, Robert Eye at ra_eye at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> Jon,
>>
>> Are you sure someone didn't stick a 5x bell on a 6x frame?
>> Does the bell ferrule have a number on it, or is there just
>> a number on the bell stamp?
>>
>> Standard 5x's were 0.460". I don't recall that there was
>> even a stock MLP 5x - not that you couldn't order one  ...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bob Eye
>> Dallas, TX
>>
>> --- jontrimble at suddenlink.net wrote:
>>
>>> My Benge 5x  (L) is a .468. it dates around 76-77 seriel
>>> number under 20K.
>>>
>>> Jon Trimble
>>> jontrimble at suddenlink.net
>>> http://myspace.com/jontrimble
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