[TPIN] Hearts And Minds (Was Maynard / heir flame)

[David Adams]

Alright, my 2 cents.  I just spent two full days adjudicating a jazz  
festival for the California Music Educators Assoc.  ALL big bands,  
jr. hi and high school.  There are a lot of terrific young players  
playing all the big band music and loving it.  I didn't hear any  
young Maynards this weekend, but there are plenty of kids with real  
chops, and more than a few really fine improvisers.  As Mike said,  
there is plenty of good music going on in our schools.  By the way,  
nobody sold any T-shirts.  Dave
On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Vaxtrpts at aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 2/5/2007 9:41:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> k6mms at yahoo.com writes:
>
> To  support mine one last time: does anyone know how many thousands  
> of tee
> shirts  Maynard sold in
> the last year of his carreer? I would consider that a  physical  
> measure of
> the level of "hearts and
> minds" that he was able to  capture in the youth market.
>
> Does anyone know how many tee shirts that  ALL of the groups that were
> mentioned in Mike's post
> sold over the last  year COMBINED? Probably not a fraction of what  
> Maynard
> did, but I don't  know...
>
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Boy, Lenny B, are you out of touch with what Maynard or ANY of us  
> are all
> about.  Tee shirt sales??? Give me a break.  If that is your  
> measure  of a
> musical legacy, I pity you.
> And - as I said in my previous post, big bands will NEVER be pop  
> music  again
> and I agree that they haven't been for many years.  Maynard, for  
> as  great as
> he was for US, wasn't known by 99% of the young people who listen  
> to  any
> kind of music.  For that matter, Brian Setzer did more to bring  
> big  band music
> to NEW young people than Maynard ever did.  So what?
> Stan Kenton was really the "father" of jazz education. The whole  
> idea of
> what is now IAJE was pretty much his.  He was the first one to  
> bring his  band
> into schools and was the first band leader to start summer jazz   
> camps.  Maynard
> kept Stan's dream alive and many of us today are following  in those
> footsteps.
> So, Lenny B, you live right in the Bay Area. (Interesting)  How   
> many of the
> dozens of concerts IN SCHOOLS that my big band has done over the   
> past ten
> years or more have you ever come to?  How many times have you   
> heard the high
> school bands (and even middle school bands) open the concert for   
> us?  How many
> times have you seen the "finale" tune with all the young  players  
> on stage
> trading fours with my musicians on a blues tune?  How many  times  
> have you seen
> the looks on the students' faces - and their parents'  faces?  How  
> many times
> have you seen us do an assembly during the school  day for NOT just  
> the music
> students?  And - to agree with your  assessment  of the need for  
> sales of
> something to evaluate how a band is  doing, how many times have you  
> seen the kids
> and parents flock to the CD sales  table after a performance to buy  
> the
> thousands of CD's that we have sold over  the years?  Selling CD's  
> for the kids to
> LISTEN to, is much more important  then selling T-Shirts, in my  
> opinion.
> Sorry, but your arguments just don't "cut it" with me.
> Sorry, also to the TPIN list, if I have gone over the edge a  
> little, but I
> am passionate about this subject, as you can well imagine.
> Mike Vax
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David B. Adams
Palo Alto Unified School District
Director, Foothill Symphonic Winds
www.windband.org/foothill