[TPIN] "True Bach/Primative??

[Glenn Bengry]

Please explain what you mean by primative.  That is a pretty damning claim 
of some method or process used in the past.  If you are going to use the 
term, then how about telling us what is primative and what is improved. and 
why.

Did old man bach employ homo habilis?  australopithicus?  Homo Erectus 
perhaps.


glenn
>From: "Allegro69" <allegro69 at comcast.net>
>To: <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [TPIN] "True Bach" horns being built - A new and bigger can 
>ofworms
>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:57:07 -0500
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> > Message: 26
> > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:50:19 -0600
> > From: <jontrimble at suddenlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: [TPIN] "True Bach" horns being built
> > To: "Jon" <jon at yakatus.com>, <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
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> > Sounds good to me.  I'm basing my opinion on articles from about a year
>ago
> > or so.  The workers on strike were complaining about the lessor matals 
>and
> > things they had to use.  I believe any newbee there will simply lie to 
>us.
> > Never met an honest scab.  Anyway, maybe one of the old cats from there 
>is
> > reading this and can shed some light.  I believe if Bach were pressured
> > enough, they could go back to the old way.  Then again, the market is so
> > much about school horns maybe it won't matter regardless.  Looking 
>forward
> > to some information.
> > By the way, I know plenty of people who play Bach's and they sound great
>on
> > them.  My last teacher in Vegas, Tommy Porrello, plays one. I'm just 
>have
>a
> > beef with the in with the new (cheap) out with the old (priceless)
> > mentality.
> > Thanks..:)
> > Jon Trimble
>
>WOW! This is opening a bigger can of worms than the BINAK thread. Being a
>person with the 'they don't make them like they use to' mentality, I'd be
>inclined to say that the 'true' Bach horns were the ones built in Mt.
>Vernon. I'm sure that many will call my attitude as being obtuse,
>considering the fact that products can be improved as time goes on. Despite
>that, it sometimes boils down to whose fingerprints are on the horn upon
>shipping it from the factory to the consumer. While in reality, that
>shouldn't make any difference at all, especially if manufacturing standards
>have been proven to be better than the earlier more primative standards; 
>but
>one can get a certain kick in the head by owning and playing something now
>to be thought as being 'vintage' and 'blessed'. I know the bottom line 
>where
>hard work and practice will make a player be able to play well on any horn
>placed in his or her hands, but sometimes a little spiritualism and
>superstition adds a touch of patina to the whole process. Again, just my 
>two
>cents plain.
>
>
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