[TPIN] Water

[Orion Development Corp - D. Arndt]

Seems to be a universal issue.  I think my course of action here will be to 
clean the living daylights out of them first, see if it improves and if not, 
replace them with standard water keys.

Then sell it and buy a Yamaha... <g>



On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:36:55 +0000 (GMT), nickmondello wrote
> David:
> I ran into same annoying water problem with the Amados on my Kanstul 
> Besson. I eventually had Zig remove them in favor of traditional 
> lever keys. No more water! FYI, I discussed this water accumulation 
> issue with Bob Malone of Yamaha the other day. I mentioned that 
> after the Amados were removed from my horn, no more water was 
> accumulating, but the horn was somewhat less responsive. Bob 
> mentioned that some horns (like my Shew Z) with water keys can have 
> little protrusions or nipples on the cork/rubber sealer to alleviate 
> the loss of response when making the switch. I happened to notice 
> that Vince DiMartino has an Amado key only on the 3rd slide and 
> traditional water key on the tuning slide. Anyone know why or what 
> benefit that might be? Nick
> 
> Posted by: "David Arndt" darndt at oriongate.net 
> Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:02 am (PST) 
> I've got a Getzen flugel that I picked up used a few years ago. 
> Plays ok, good condition.
> 
> One attribute of this horn that drives me NUTS is that is seems to
> accumulate *water* like crazy (spit, condensation, whatever) - and 
> it's very difficult to empty.
> 
> It has Amado water keys on the first and third valve slides and also 
> under the bend in the lead pipe. I can open any of these keys 
> (valves down of course), blow, shake, rattle & roll... And it still 
> doesn't get all the water out.
> 
> The only remedy I've found for this is to remove the valve slides 
> and shake the water out.
> 
> Anyone ever solve a problem like this? The problem *seems* to be 
> with the Amado water keys. Maybe I should replace them with regular 
> water keys?
> 
> - da
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