[TPIN] Market pricing

[Scott Smith]

Also this is in a time when most mouthpieces are not handmade and the 
machine does nearly all the work.  You'd think prices would go down on 
those.


Daniel,John wrote:
> Cheri,
> I'm not communicating very well on this issue, my apologies.  I meant 
> to say that I think the annual 5% price increase is fair, or at least 
> relatively fair.  I mentioned it as the industry standard.  It's the 
> exceptions to that policy that I mentioned in my original post that 
> have caused my angst:
> 1.  It's amazing to me how many mouthpieces are being sold in the 
> $100-$200 range.
> 2.  Yamaha closing it's US factories and introducing a new line of 
> trumpets priced well above their normal price range, and naming them 
> after US cities ta boot!
> 3.  Bach essentially fires it's work force and substantially raises 
> it's prices at the same time.  I haven't played that many new Bach 
> trumpets from their new work force, but the dozen or so I have played 
> have played average to below average.  Maybe I'm biased at this point.
>
> Music dealers in this country have started to balk at this as well.  
> The introduction of the Accent line of instruments is specifically 
> targeting the first time/professional model consumer.  In other words, 
> the pricing of Yamaha and Bach has left a niche for Accent and others 
> to fill.  I do hope someone manages to do it well.
>
> So when a trumpet is made with a price tag above the annual salary of 
> all but 20 (at most) professional trumpet players in this country, I 
> would prefer if folks were not too impressed.  I love it when Mike 
> Vax, for example, (who has worked with Getzen, Yamaha, and others) 
> just says phooey.
>
> I guess I should have said it more clearly the first time; maybe I 
> needed to talk it out.
>
> PHOOEY, PHOOEY, PHOOEY, ouch, I'm an old geezer,
> John
>
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:14:05 EDT
>  Tptgirl at aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 8/31/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
>> john.daniel at lawrence.edu writes:
>>
>> Musical  instruments have gone up in pricing 5% per year like clock 
>> work.  And  for most of the industry, this continues to be the  case.
>>
>>
>> I think that a 5% increase yearly is pretty fair - based on our  
>> economy. It is not just the music industry. When I was at a day job 
>> years ago, a  yearly cost of living increase was 5%, so considering 
>> that, the increase you  have cited is completely substantiated.
>> Compare that to the increases in the cost of living....a quick 
>> search  showed US cost of living increase of 2.4% reported by the US 
>> Labor Department  from 06/2006 to 06/2007.  I don't have previous 
>> years numbers in front of  me, but for prices to not increase is a 
>> little unrealistic.
>>
>> I am not saying I would not like the prices to stay lower, of course 
>> I  would.  I actually would like to purchase a new horn right now, 
>> but on my  trumpet players salary, it is out of reach at this time.  
>> I understand the  frustration... but that is simply how our economy 
>> is set up.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
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