Handling a horn (was: [TPIN] Monette for sale)

[Graham Young]

 Had anyone noticed that this seller ( Hotdealsmokko )  on Ebay makes really
wild claims for what he sells?
He quotes prices from supposed price lists for this model when it is no
langer made etc. 
He had an old Bach up for a ridiculous price previously.

I think the addition of the valve stop mechanisms are a mistake.
They are not on originally because ( as I was told) they colour the sound
and alter response.

As to the placement on a lawn chair. Although it is something I would not do
it only tells you about the seller, not the maker.

I have owned an STC1 for many years. I treat it with the same respect I do
ony of my trumpets.
The metal seems to be softer but so are Shilke Berylium bells and Kanstul
copper bells.

You can dent those by pushing a little too hard. The STC1 is harder than
that.

Why make this an issue? I recently learned why you shouldn't pick an
isttrument up by the leadpipe.

I grabbed an old Higham Cornet (1893) that I was playing in my Victorian
brass group and it dropped on the grass.
Thankfully no harm was done. Those cornets had easily changeable leadpipe.

Stress in ANY trumpet is an issue. Recently our band tried one of the new
Yamaha Zeno Eb Cornets.
It had a brace that was not soldered correctly. Compared to one that was
properly built it played terribly out of tune.
The solder joints that have stress on them willl resonate differently. The
physics are the same for every Monette and Chinese made Walmart lawn
ornament

Remember you likely will not notice old spark plugs on your 16 year old
Toyota but one bad plug on a Ferrari F1 car would be noticed.


My STC is the best trumpet I have ever owned for ease of play. 

I cann't imagine trying one of his newer designs.


The seething jealousy/animosity/tut-tutting that is directed at Dave Montte
is just sad. I hope Curtis will record with it .
I have heard Charles Schleuter's Raja and it an incredibly beautiful and
masterful trumpet tone.




Graham J Young B.Mus B.Ed
Hamilton Musician Services
cel - 905-928-4671
gjyoung at mountaincable.net

-----Original Message-----
From: tpin-bounces at tpin.okcu.edu [mailto:tpin-bounces at tpin.okcu.edu] On
Behalf Of Michael Anderson
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:08 AM
To: Doc D'Errico; 'Trumpet Players' International Network'
Subject: Re: Handling a horn (was: [TPIN] Monette for sale)

I'm not sure how important this is with traditional horns, but don't pick it
up by the leadpipe by wrapping your fingers over the leadpipe and mouthpiece
receiver. You are putting the stress of the entire horn on that one spot.

Monette suggests a two-handed pick up at the valve cluster. Not the way you
hold it, but wrap your hand around the cluster itself. Once it is safely in
your left hand, then put your right hand in place.

MA


> From: Doc D'Errico <doc at derrico.net>
> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:52:51 -0400
> To: 'Trumpet Players' International Network' <tpin at tpin.okcu.edu>
> Subject: Handling a horn (was: [TPIN] Monette for sale)
> 
> So...  What *IS* the correct way to pick it up and hold it?
> 
> I always put my horn on a stand or in the case -- just lucky I guess 
> that I was taught this very early on, although I'll admit I've placed 
> it ON TOP of the insert in the case from time-to-time with the bell in 
> its socket, but the rest of the horn resting on the insert...
> 
> (ps to Jim D and Brendan C if they're reading this -- I NEVER do that 
> with my Schilke B1LB, very paranoid about the soft bell -- but I have 
> done it with my Mike Vax Getzen and my Schilke X3 -- and <sigh> yes 
> with my Flugels
> - guilty as charged)...
> 
> Picking it up, I always seem to grab the valve cluster, which is where 
> I'd be holding it anyway...
> 
> So what damage am I unknowingly doing and what SHOULD one do?


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