[TPIN] Monette for sale

[Daniel,John]

If by "bias" we mean a predisposition to believe one thing 
vs. another, then bias is just another word for 
experience.
The issue is if the bias is justified and/or outdated etc. 
 We all have our biases.  This forum is an excellent way 
to identify, compare and contrast our biases.  One common 
bias, for example, is to believe something is worth more 
because it costs more.  Intrinsic values, vs. market 
values, vs. musical values are very much bias (experience) 
driven.  The friction between the Monette owners and 
nonowners is often a friction between biases, and we all 
have them.
John
  





On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:03:28 -0400
  "Dr. Albert L. Lilly III" <albert.lilly at sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:
> At 6:56 AM -0500 9/1/07, tpin-request at tpin.okcu.edu 
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 8/31/2007 7:11:52 P.M. Pacific 
>>Daylight Time, manderson at okcu.edu writes:
>>
>>They are  very soft and damage easily. It looks very 
>>precarious to  me.
>>
>>MA
>>
>>
>>
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>>Geez, I am trying to stay out of this, but I just can't. 
>> This is part  of
>>what I have had against Monette horns all along.  You pay 
>>a zillion dollars for
>>one, but it is too soft, or too delicate, or too whatever 
>>to take  the usual
>>use of a trumpet. (A Tool that most of us have to use to 
>>conduct our business.)
>>Also, please, someone tell us about the "tune-up" that 
>>you must have done that costs a couple of hundred 
>>dollars?  I'm not sure how often this is supposed to 
>>happen.
>>As someone else said in a different way, I'll take my 
>>Getzen any day.   Good
>>reliable horn that will take the usual road stuff and 
>>"keep on  coming."  A
>>good sound, great valves, and very easy to play.  Even in 
>> Gold, a bargain
>>compared to a Monette.
>>Mike Vax
> 
> 
> Mike, Mike, Mike......I'm slapping down the bullcrap 
>card.
> 
> You've done nothing but bust on Monette here for the 
>last four days.
> 
> At least be honest enough to admit you are NOT a good 
>source to talk in an unbiased manner on Monette or his 
>product, because it is exceptionally clear to anyone who 
>can read that you are not.
> 
> You are a great player, and have given a lot of good 
>advice on many subjects here.  But your bias here is 
>showing, as well as (*on this subject only*) your 
>ignorance.
> 
> Monette has never charged me a dime for "tune-up".  If 
>you are the original owner of a horn, he sends out all of 
>the o-rings, valve felts and springs, bungy cords, and 
>other materials for your horn free.  He charges for a 
>chem cleaning if you have it done, and asks that you ship 
>it FedEx to avoid damage in shipment.  He took a ping out 
>of a slide for free, realigned my valve cluster (with 
>proper felts, and sent a few sets that match) for free.
> 
> The only thing you really cannot do with a Monette is 
>use a trumpet stand, and even Maynard did that with his, 
>so.....
> 
> Don't be so believing of all the negative stuff you 
>read.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> -- 
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