[TPIN] Monette for sale

Sun Sep 2 10:10:35 CDT 2007

On Sun, September 2, 2007 1:32 am, Dr. Albert L. Lilly III said:
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> Likely no maker in the history of instruments has faced the
> polarizing effects that David has on the trumpet world.  And, even
> today, the mention of his name with anything positive on this list,
> on trumpet herald, or any of a number of other places causes
> consternation and ill will.
>
> It is disappointing to see that this forum has only marginally grown
> in 10 years on this subject.
>
>
> AL

Al:

Does this comes as a surprise after attempting to redefine what a
trumpet should sound like? Do you really measure TPIN's growth
in its acceptance of these ideas. Maybe the ideas are bad and
undeserving of general acceptance. Good rhetoric; you almost
paint DM as a messianic character.

It is terrific to see you back on TPIN.

best regards,

-Ellis

>
> At 2:00 PM -0500 9/1/07, Daniel,John in an electronic message offered
> the following:
>>If by "bias" we mean a predisposition to believe one thing vs.
>>another, then bias is just another word for experience.
>>The issue is if the bias is justified and/or outdated etc. We all
>>have our biases.  This forum is an excellent way to identify,
>>compare and contrast our biases.  One common bias, for example, is
>>to believe something is worth more because it costs more.  Intrinsic
>>values, vs. market values, vs. musical values are very much bias
>>(experience) driven.  The friction between the Monette owners and
>>nonowners is often a friction between biases, and we all have them.
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:03:28 -0400
>>  "Dr. Albert L. Lilly III" <albert.lilly at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>At 6:56 AM -0500 9/1/07, tpin-request at tpin.okcu.edu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 8/31/2007 7:11:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>>manderson at okcu.edu writes:
>>>>
>>>>They are  very soft and damage easily. It looks very precarious to  me.
>>>>
>>>>MA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>Geez, I am trying to stay out of this, but I just can't. This is part
>>>> of
>>>>what I have had against Monette horns all along.  You pay a
>>>>zillion dollars for
>>>>one, but it is too soft, or too delicate, or too whatever to take  the
>>>> usual
>>>>use of a trumpet. (A Tool that most of us have to use to conduct
>>>>our business.)
>>>>Also, please, someone tell us about the "tune-up" that you must
>>>>have done that costs a couple of hundred dollars?  I'm not sure
>>>>how often this is supposed to happen.
>>>>As someone else said in a different way, I'll take my Getzen any day.
>>>> Good
>>>>reliable horn that will take the usual road stuff and "keep on
>>>> coming."  A
>>>>good sound, great valves, and very easy to play.  Even in Gold, a
>>>> bargain
>>>>compared to a Monette.
>>>>Mike Vax
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike, Mike, Mike......I'm slapping down the bullcrap card.
>>>
>>>You've done nothing but bust on Monette here for the last four days.
>>>
>>>At least be honest enough to admit you are NOT a good source to
>>>talk in an unbiased manner on Monette or his product, because it is
>>>exceptionally clear to anyone who can read that you are not.
>>>
>>>You are a great player, and have given a lot of good advice on many
>>>subjects here.  But your bias here is showing, as well as (*on this
>>>subject only*) your ignorance.
>>>
>>>Monette has never charged me a dime for "tune-up".  If you are the
>>>original owner of a horn, he sends out all of the o-rings, valve
>>>felts and springs, bungy cords, and other materials for your horn
>>>free.  He charges for a chem cleaning if you have it done, and asks
>>>that you ship it FedEx to avoid damage in shipment.  He took a ping
>>>out of a slide for free, realigned my valve cluster (with proper
>>>felts, and sent a few sets that match) for free.
>>>
>>>The only thing you really cannot do with a Monette is use a trumpet
>>>stand, and even Maynard did that with his, so.....
>>>
>>>Don't be so believing of all the negative stuff you read.
>>>
>>>Al
>>>
>>>
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Rochester, MN US