[TPIN] Monette/Polarization/Criticism

[Steve Roiland]

In my conversations with Dave Monette I can say without qualification that 
he believes in himself and walks his talk.  Is his direction in 
re-engineering the trumpet correct?  Any engineer knows that there are trade 
offs.  Without people like Monette pushing the envelope on engineering, the 
only direction we have prevailing in trumpet construction is mass production 
in Asia.

Steve Roiland

>From: Glenn Bengry <soundpretty at hotmail.com>
>To: "Dr. Albert L. Lilly III" <albert.lilly at sbcglobal.net>,        
>"Daniel,John"<john.daniel at lawrence.edu>
>CC: tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
>Subject: [TPIN] Monette/Polarization/Criticism
>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:03:00 -0400
>
>
>Al's statement joined mid sentence:
>  jumped to conclusions based on > half truths, or ignorance of the 
>situation. In the face of some > pretty interesting information that 
>changes the light on the subject > entirely, the man still faces criticism.
>
>
>
>Everyone faces criticism, Dave is no different just because he's Dave
>
> > > Likely no maker in the history of instruments has faced the > 
>polarizing effects that David has on the trumpet world. And, even > today, 
>the mention of his name with anything positive on this list, > on trumpet 
>herald, or any of a number of other places causes > consternation and ill 
>will.
>
>
>
>Dave has brought much of this upon himself.  His attitude toward many 
>people including
>extremely accomplished players has been condescending.  If someone doesn't 
>like a Monette horn
>on many instances, the player has been told that they are not playing 
>right, or its implied that their is something wrong with the player.  I 
>also know an extremely fine "major" orchestral player
>that inquired about Dave's horns.  Dave insinuated that he wasn't a major 
>player and that he should consult one of the MAJOR players.  That behavior 
>drips with arrogance and condescension.  Needless to say, his treatment of 
>that player didn't earn him any
>respect of credibility.
>
>His pricing alone insults a lot of players and a lot of the brilliant 
>makers going back over 100 years.
>He can charge what he wants, but people don't have to respect his pricing 
>or the attitude that goes along with it.
>
>
> > > It is disappointing to see that this forum has only marginally grown > 
>in 10 years on this subject.
>
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>
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>       First of all, here, to judge "the forum" is innappropriate.  It is 
>made up of individuals.  With all due respect, Al, don't lump me in with 
>several hundred people and pass judgment upon my "growth" in regards to the 
>Monette subject.
>
>      Secondly, it comes across as judgmental to make a comment about our 
>"growth" as if you are in some position to Judge it or to decide what 
>"growth" is in the first place.  This is part of the attitude that turns 
>many people off in regard to Dave and his horns in the first place.
>
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>glenn
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