[TPIN] RE: Market pricing/Eb-D intonation

[Glenn Bengry]

Joe,
 
    I asked for specific.  I got it!   All of that is great information.  The only thing I'm surprized at with this set of observations is that the horn might be dark for the orchestra.  Usually the higher the horn the brighter.  Plus, for me, I think an awful lot of orchestral tpts are too bright esp when they get loud.  But, whatever.  It sounds like a pretty interesting instrument.  
 
You obviously don't settle for any old equipment, based on the horns you are using right now.  I'd trust your observations without hesitation.
 
Glenn
 
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:03:53 -0700From: trumpet at caddell.orgTo: soundpretty at hotmail.comCC: manderson at okcu.edu; tpin at tpin.okcu.eduSubject: Re: Market pricing/Eb-D intonation
Glenn,Thank you, intonation is the wrong word.  The horn has (at least for me) excellent pitch tendencies.  What I mean is that once I've adjusted the tuning slides I have to compensate for discrepancies between  the note that I play and either the ensemble or the tuner much less often, and when I do have to adjust it is not usually a large difference in frequency.  It compares favorably in this regard to my C (a Bach/Larson conversion) and my Bb (a Larson GFT LX).  At least for me, with my mouthpiece.Specifically: When I play a note and find the pitch at which the horn sounds the best (most open, resonant, what have you) I find these tendencies. All of them can be lipped into pitch without affecting the tonal quality too much.  I do extend the 1st and 3rd valve tuning slides for the low C#.  I do not use alternate fingerings for any note on this horn.  Here goes.  This is for the Eb side.  I haven't played with the D side much yet.  The low C is very close.The low C# is still high. 20 cents?The low D is a little high.  5 cents?.The bottom line Eb is low.  5 cents?The bottom line E is very close.The F is very close.The F# is a litle low. 2 cents?The G is very close.The Ab is low.  10 cents?The A is very close.The Bb is a little low.  10 cents?The B is a little low.  10 cents?The C is very close.The C# is very close.The D is low.  15 cents?The Eb is low.  15 cents?The E is a little low.  10 cents?The F is a little low.  5 cents?The F# is a little high.  10 cents?The G is close.The Ab is a little high.  10 cents?The A is close.The Bb is a little low.  5 cents?The B is close.The C is high.  15 cents?If it matters, I am playing on a G&W David Hickman mouthpiece.  I don't know if that qualifies as a toilet bowl.  What I meant when I said that it might not be my first choice for an orchestral situation is that the sound, for me on my mouthpiece, is somewhat "dark".  I like it, but I think I would have to work real hard to get the shimmering brilliance that I like to hear in that situation.  I'm sure it's different for you.Look, I know you guys are curious, and somewhat skeptical.  That's as it should be.  I just thought I'd share my experience since I haven't seen much about Eastman trumpets here in TPIN.  I have no affiliation with either Eastman or Anaheim band except that I bought this horn from them.  Here's the information, do what you will with it.As far as being made in China, or Taiwan, or wherever, I'm not sure what to say about that.  I am in a situation now where I must get the most quality that I can for the least amount of money that I can.  The political ramifications run last place at this point for me.Sorry this post is so long, I'll shut up now.Warm Regards,Joe Caddell