[TPIN] Re: Monette/Engineering discoveries?

[Steve Roiland]

THE ONLY REASON I USED CAPITAL LETTERS WAS BECAUSE I WANTED PEOPLE TO BE 
ABLE TO SEPERATE MY ANSWERS FROM YOUR QUESTIONS.  I MEANT NO ANGER OR 
DISRESPECT.

ANATOMY OF A FLAME:

LETS READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY BEFORE WE TRY TO SHOOT THEM DOWN.

STEVE ROILAND
>From: "Dr. Albert L. Lilly III" <albert.lilly at sbcglobal.net>
>To: Glenn Bengry <soundpretty at hotmail.com>>CC: Steve Roiland 
><sjrtrumpet1 at hotmail.com>,  Re: Monette/Engineering discoveries?
At 12:37 PM -0400 9/2/07, Glenn Bengry in an electronic message
>offered the following:
>>  >
>>>  In my conversations with Dave Monette I can say without qualification 
>>>that
>>>  he believes in himself and walks his talk.
>>
>>
>>
>>What do you mean "he walks his talk?"
ANSWER: "HE WALKS HIS TALK" IS AN EXPRESSION WHICH MEANS THAT HE DEVOTES HIS 
RESOURCES, BELIEFS AND THINKING TO SUPPORT THE OPINIONS AND CLAIMS THAT HE 
MAKES.
>>
>>
>>  Is his direction in
>>>  re-engineering the trumpet correct? Any engineer knows that there are 
>>>trade
>>>  offs. Without people like Monette pushing the envelope on engineering, 
>>>the
>>>  only direction we have prevailing in trumpet construction is mass 
>>>production
>>>  in Asia.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>How do you know what engineering is going on in trumpet construction?
>>
>>  Are you saying that all the makers and individuals out there are not 
>>making discoveries in the design and engineering?  do you even know who 
>>all the designers are?  there are a few guys out there still alive and 
>>designing that personally knew the Besson family, Vincent Bach, Bill 
>>Tottle, Elden Benge, Renold Schilke, Gene Pilzcuk,etc and still designs 
>>with Doc Severinson and Zig Kanstul. He forgot more than Dave Monette will 
>>ever know.  These guys didn't tell the world their secrets.  You would 
>>never know what revolutionary discoveries they made, are making or are
>>incorporating into their instruments.Many of them are things you can't 
>>see.
>>
ONCE AGAIN "WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE MONETTE".  THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE LIKE MONETTE 
IN THAT THEY ARE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE AND STRIVING FOR A BETTER TRUMPET.  
GIVEN THE EXTENT TO WHICH GUITARS AND EYBOARDS HAVE BEEN INNOVATED AND 
BECOME THE DOMINANT INSTRUMENTS OF TODAY THE EFFORTS OF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE 
WHO ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE FUTURE OF MUSIC ARE TO BE SUPPORTED AND 
COMMENDED.  WHEN I ATTEND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MANY OF THE KIDS DON'T 
KNOW THE INSTRUMENT I AM PLAYING IS A TRUMPET OR RECOGNIZE THE MUSIC THAT I 
AM PLAYING I AM DEEPLY SADDENED AND GRAVELY CONCERNED. >>>>
>>If you are convinced that there are no design and engineering developments 
>>going on, then perhaps Dave has succeeded with his marketing strategy.
>>
DAVE IS ONLY ONE OF MANY INNOVATORS.  HIS BUSINESS SUCCESS OR FAILURE WILL 
DETERMINE HOW RELEVANT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WERE TO THE PUBLIC.

>>
>>glenn
>>
>
>I had prepared a huge reply blowing you out of the water on this subject 
>Glenn, but I can see that no reply I would possibly make would in any way 
>compete with the beliefs you hold regarding this subject, and will refrain 
>from further replies.  When the eyes go shut, and the mind closed, the ears 
>go silent, and the belief is set, no amount of discussion will change an 
>opinion, and no one on TPIN benefits from that continued spiral downward.  
>I can see both sides of the coin in this consideration.  I know Dave's 
>shortcomings.  I know my own.
>
>Continuing this discussion will only precipitate more of mine....so I will 
>not.
>
>AL
>
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>Trumpeter, Brass Clinician, Arranger and Composer  Calendar Editor, 
>International Trumpet Guild  http://www.trumpetguild.org Endorsing 
>Scholastic Educator, Vic Firth Incorporated, http://www.vicfirth.com
>Lilly Music Services -  http://www.lillymusic.org
>Personal home page - http://www.lillymusic.org/alilly.html
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