[TPIN] Piccolo Trpt (fingering)

[Ellis Workman]

My experience with a couple different 4 valve
piccs is that you have to choose how you will
use the 4th valve based on the piece.

A. If you need the "low F" (1-4) (i.e. TTSS ) pull the
4th slide to tune that note.

B. If you don't need low F, but would like to have
an in tune alternative to 1-3, tune the 4th slide
appropriately.

The same idea holds for my 4 valve flugel and Eb.

-Ellis



On Fri, March 7, 2008 12:46 pm, BOB ZACK said:
> Jeanne,
>
>   Thank you for taking the time to break down the concepts of fingering
> for the Piccolo Trumpet.  Your email is invaluable to me.  Some of your
> points I have already intuited in my practice but I did not have the
> complete grasp of the concepts.
>
>   You truly must be "one fine educator."  I envy your students.
>
>   I am really looking forward to seeing the finished product of your web
> site when it is available.
>
>   Sincerely,
>   Bob Zack
>
> Jeanne G Pocius <jgpocius at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   Bob:
>
> The fourth valve gives the same overtone series as the first and third
> valves together.
>
> Adding the 2nd valve drops that series a half step.
>
> Adding the 1st valve drops it a whole step.
>
> Adding the 1st and 2nd lowers it a minor third
>
> Adding the 2nd and 3rd lowers it a major third.
>
> Adding the 1st and 3rd lowers it a perfect fourth.
>
> and adding all three to the fourth valve lowers it three whole steps.
>
> Of course, you must also be aware that certain partials which are already
> intonation challenged will be that much MORE challenged by the piccolo's
> tessitura! The lowest partials, for example, tend to be very sharp on the
> picc...
>
> Here's a basic, get you started chart:
>
> Open: C G C E G Bb C (not likely to need higher than that on piccolo! :)
>
> 2nd: B F# B D# F# A B
>
> 1st: Bb F Bb D F Ab Bb
>
> 3rd/1+2: A E A C# E G A
>
> 2+3: Ab Eb Ab C Eb Gb Ab
>
> 1+3/4 G D G B D F G
>
> 1+2+3/2+4: F# C# F# A# C# E F#
>
> 1+4: F C F A C Eb F
>
> 1+2+4: E B E Ab B D E
>
> 2+3+4: Eb Bb Eb G Bb Db Eb
>
> 1+3+4: D A D F# A C D
>
> 1+2+3+4: Db Ab Db F Ab Cb Db
>
> Always be aware that the lower notes in each partial will likely run up to
> 1/2 step sharp (In fact, Broiles advocated playing low C, usually open,
> with 124 fingerings on picc!)
>
> Much depends upon the individual player/horn/mpc combination, too...
>
>
> So best advice: practice and learn your own (and your own horn's
> tendencies)!
>
> Hth,
> Take Care!
> Jeanne
>
> BOB ZACK wrote:
> TPIN'ers
>
> Is there a fingering chart for a Bb Picc Trpt that incorporates the use of
> the 4th valve to extend the lower and/or upper range, as well as alternate
> fingerings for trilling purposes?
>
> In my limited use of picc, I've found that in many cases I'm more
> successful using my Bb horn to cover a part, while at the same time losing
> the delicate and more graceful sound of the Picc. In fact, I sound
> cumbersome, heavy and cloddish, even tho my peers are impressed with my
> range and flexibility.
>
> Are there any Pro's here in southern Indiana who might be interested in
> taking on a serious student of Trpt?
>
> Sincerely,
> Bob Zack
>
> Jeanne Gabriel Pocius
> Author of *Trumpeting By Nature, An Efficient Guide to Optimal Trumpet
> Playing*
> Published by Outskirts Press (available at www.amazon.com )
> 360 pages of information on embouchure, musicality, pedagogy and more!
> (978)317-4731
> Email: jgpocius at yahoo.com
> Webpage(under construction): www.jeannegpocius.com
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